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Posted by 1stSlip on July 26 2008, 09:06 AM GMT Hoggard should be returned to the England set-up. The problem with England's bowling attack lies with the continual selection of the under-performing Stuart Broad. Hoggard is a far better wicket-taker than Broad. Broad does not deserve to be in the England side after just a handful of wickets in all the tests he has played. Posted by edrich on July 25 2008, 18:58 PM GMT The sole reason that Pattinson made the XI for Headingley and Hoggard wasn't considered was because pattinson was just keeping Sidebottom place warm.If Hoggard had played (or Tremlett,or anyone else) and done an even half-decent job he would have retained his spot for Edgbaston.Pattinson who nobody was calling to be in the side would have no-one to condemn his omission.He was basically the fall-guy.Sidebottom is in the England side come hell or highwater because vaughan wants it that way.Pattinson was no threat to Sidebottom-anyone else might have been.What this means is that the mediocre talents of Sidebottom are with us for a very long time.The man whose Test career is bloated on sub-standard oppostion(WI/NZ)is pretty much immoveable for the foreseeable future.It is just depressing. Posted by Owls_That on July 25 2008, 11:08 AM GMT Shame for Hoggard. An interesting point about bowling as a unit. Hoggard has always shunned the limelight and not really talked himself up or promoted himself unlike others. He just gets on and does what he does - bowls lots of overs of high quality swing and nips out a few. The Johannesburg comparison is really telling - his 12 for is credited partly to Flintoff - how often has Hoggard had batsmen in trouble at one end, under pressure and unable to score, which has let the more 'explosive' bowler at the othend (Freddie, Harmison) take the wicket while the batsmen tries to score of gim. knowing that scorinh ofsf an on-form Hoggard is very difficult. A test unit is not about the four fastest, its about bowling in balanced pairs. At the moment England don't do that. Hoggard would allow itI can't believe that anybody thinks JimmyA or Broad is a better bowler ove the five days of a Test match than Hoggard. Posted by ashokb83 on July 25 2008, 01:52 AM GMT Of all the English Bowlers to visit the Indian Subcontinent, I thought, Hoggard was the most lion-hearted. He may not have the charisma of a Flintoff or the flamboyance of a Sidebottom, but what he does have is the ability to toil on Indian wickets, offering no assistance at all to a bowler of his ilk. For a fast bowler to be successful here, mental toughness and the stamina to bowl over after over, under the hot Indian sun, are essential traits and Hoggard has them in abundance. I still think he has it in him to make a comeback to the side and I hope the English selectors are not so myopic as to think he has out-lived his utility. For the sake of all his English fans, and the cricketing world in general, I hope he is given one more chance to prove he is still a force to be reckoned with. Posted by sidthejedi on July 24 2008, 21:55 PM GMT I look forward to the day when a batsman is dropped after the bowlers performed shockingly. It is a disgrace how over the years batsmen have been rewarded for throwing their wickets away with lengthy stays in the test match squad. The sooner a couple of the top of the order are dropped the better. Posted by EnglishTrini on July 24 2008, 18:41 PM GMT Hoggard should have been included from the very start as well as Harmison if England want to win this series the current attack should be changed to include this pair. Posted by tbc1 on July 24 2008, 18:27 PM GMT The non-selection of Hoggard at Headingly may well be rightly deemed flawed, however, the wider complaint neglects one factor; the progress of Anderson. Mr. Miller rightly premsies his considerations upon the necessity for a "bowling unit", in which specialist bowlers complement and accentuate each other, rather than an ungainly array of talent. In light of this exigency, surely if Anderson is able to fulfll Hoggard's role better than the mane himself, then Hoggard cannot be retained? Posted by Love_WI_Hate_WI on July 24 2008, 15:58 PM GMT I still can't believe that they would leave Hoggard out. He is one of those bowlers who gives his all and has the results to prove his worth. Shame on Vaughan for not fighting for him. If the English captain and selectors continue along this track, then they are going to get whipped by Oz in the next Ashes. Posted by nachiketa13 on July 24 2008, 15:25 PM GMT Apart from Flintoff, Hoggard has by far been the best English bowler. Definitely the best in the sub-continent and if my memory serves me right, he starred in their overseas series victory in SA, not to mention the consistent bowling throughout and the dogged batting. If at all someone has to be dropped (and he should have been more than 2 years ago) is Michael Vaughan-All style and no substance(Poor man's VVS) Posted by Moin.Pasha on July 24 2008, 14:20 PM GMT Its very sad that Hoggard is being treated this way. I remember watching him play for the first time in sub continent, he used to toil with many overs of accurate bowling.Even in the worst conditions (weather and team position), he would smile and continue his bowling and taking wickets. He is England's strike bowler who can take wickets even in the subcontinent. Its a pity that England can never see beyond Flintoff and some bowlers who perform only in seam conditions at home. Hoping to see him bowl in future.
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